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Insanity of Pedophile 'Child/Youth Liberation'.

Posted by JohnHolt on 2024-June-9 10:21:33, Sunday

I've covered an Anti-c who considers himself a Youth Liberationist, and highlighted some problems with relying on radical "Liberation" philosophy to deliver for MAPs, or indeed AAMs over the coming decades.

But in 2021 and 2022, MAP "Youth Liberationists" were, no word of a lie, seemingly a thing on Twitter, now X.com.

These MAPs, it appeared, had not learned any lessons from the past conduct of pedophiles who adopted this poise, and the embarrassing ease with which they were summarily dismissed to whence they came. Boldly believing it was "different this time", they felt they were better positioned to present themselves as sincere in their appeal to higher loyalties. After all, we are talking about new-age ironic pedophiles, not stone-age boomer peds from Literally Hitler organizations such as the NAMBLA.

Over the next year or two, I heard a lot of MAPs talking about Youth Liberation, or trying to integrate it into their initiatives somehow. It was all the rage on MAP Fediverse. When I suggested this might have to be done covertly in order not to "contaminate" the Alpha Youth Libs, some of them screamed at me for being "assimilationist scum" (as you do), while others agreed and resolved to infiltrate Youth Organizations in the same way MAPs of the 1970s and 80s targeted leadership positions in the British Gay Youth Movement. From the general lack of activity within these spheres, I very much doubt that covert infiltration was attempted, let alone successfully.

I had previously been criticized by Twitter MAP "Youth Liberationists" for supporting "Youth Rights" reforms in the ethos of Newgon.net, but not mentioning the broader philosophy of "Youth Liberation", as alternatively defined. Their argument is usually a vague straw man - a claim that pure pro-c's "from Newgon" (etc) just don't grasp the theory. In my case, I apparently miss the point, ignorant even after reading all the major texts 15 years ago out of frustration with forum users who were not even contemplating the topic. "Youth Liberation" theory, therefore becomes like a bible-text for a certain kind of online pedo discourser who is unable to critique their own theory as praxis. But do they even know what it is?

Many of the critics here were young, heavily engaged with identity politics and had not properly entertained the idea of public-facing MAP activism themselves. They tended to be anti-contact or at best neutral, and engaged in "paraphilic" labeling, even of attraction to minors. Some considered themselves to be Anarchist MAPs as well as "Youth Liberationists". This was despite ultimately opposing even broad-sweeping Age of License rights reforms such as the proposal I put forward.

They appeared to ignore the central role that such incremental reforms have played in all of the major civil rights struggles of the 19th and 20th Centuries and remained bound by their immersion in theory, or fantasy, on this subject.

I challenged many MAP Youth Liberationists on Twitter when the label had become a momentary fad in 2021/22. I wanted to know how "Youth Liberation" was distinguished from Youth Rights, how it might be achieved, and how having a group like MAPs publicly on their side would help existing Youth Liberationists.

The view among some MAP "Youth Liberationists", it transpired, was that children and youth must be liberated from oppressive capitalist structures before being burdened with any "unfair" or "inappropriate" rights and responsibilities, such as the right to consent to sex. Apart from that, they left me none the wiser.

Their approach is problematic in that it doesn't even ask about youths' intermediate role in freeing themselves from an oppressive economic environment. In other words, the process of attaining and exercising incremental freedoms, or rights. It thus perpetuates a kind of cyclical paternalism towards young people.

This wasn't the only hole in how self-declared MAP Youth Liberationists and "Anarchists" approached the topic of youth-adult sexuality. Said individuals, while being lukewarm or evasive on full bodily autonomy for youth, are usually willing to grant other rights to youth almost immediately, suggesting their opinions on sex owe more to internalizing society's sex-negative and anti-youth values. My personal theory, is they actually have a deep fear of holding an "uncool" opinion. This apparent internal struggle reminded me of the Lolicons who protest angrily their "hatred" of the one thing they regularly masturbate over drawings of - children.

After learning more about "Youth Liberationist" MAPs' philosophy, I wanted to know what their exact objections were concerning this monolithic "Newgon". They alleged "Newgon" as a text "selectively deploys" Youth Liberation Philosophy. For starters, this appeared to be projection on their part. They were not only selectively appropriating Youth Liberation to cover their attraction to young people, but failing to apply it consistently to young people's bodily autonomy, lest they be seen as "uncool" by Alpha Youth Liberationists. It did eventually turn out that their fears were well-founded, when their posing was swiftly detected.

MAP Youth Liberationists' argument concerning "Newgon" was ultimately horse-shit in any event. Newgon hasn't explicitly adopted or endorsed Youth Liberationist Philosphy any way. Instead we proposed a very basic, non-binding Youth Rights platform in 2021. As we clearly state in our ethos, we are willing to co-operate across the board with respect to different ages of license, treating them all as equally important. Even if we were to describe our rights-based system as a Youth Lib position, it would therefore not be selective - quite the opposite.

One important issue here, is that despite all the online role playing, MAP co-operation with Youth Advocates of any kind is not yet forthcoming. It might not be for decades. We are therefore discussing a wholly hypothetical situation.

So while Newgon's position is a basic Youth-Rights proposal that lacks immediate viability, any MAPs who claim to be pursuing "liberation" of all minors and children will most certainly be sidelined - typecast as "self-interested" for the foreseeable future. They will be forced into the shadows, living a lie and advancing the politics of Anti-MAPs by supporting a toothless "Youth Lib" movement with a severe case of adjacency anxiety. You can be a MAP and you can be a Youth Liberationist. But in the 2020s, you can not be both at the same time.

Indeed, the half-hearted "contact-neutral" or anti-contact approach of supposed MAP "Youth Liberationists" I described, appears to be deeply assimilationist in nature. An assimilationism based on anxiety concerning these bad optics, but inadvertently producing its very own horror-show of young-sex "Liberation" clowns. The same goes for their transparent attempts at painting other MAPs as "self interested", something I'm sad to say I actually witnessed when said fad was in its pomp. MAP Youth Liberationists assumed they, as the pure God-Scholars of Liberation "theory" were not self-interested. There was something so deeply impure about being "self-interested", and it was just not them.

Ultimately, the Philosophy of Youth Liberation, while admirable in its intentions, is an adult construct, prepared for minors and children. This is why virtually every "Youth Liberationist" online (honest perv or not) is a young, or naive adult. It is inevitable the experiences of young people themselves will be the driving force behind any incremental scheme of youth rights. But unfortunately, much like Youth Lib philosophy, these experiences will be interpreted through the adult lens. Youth, while central to their own struggle, will ultimately be relying on adult lawmakers to make those initial reforms - that very paternalism "Liberationists" unwittingly leave them at the mercy of.

The needs and experiences of young people necessitating these changes, are still ultimately inseparable from adult-dominated society, economy and media. However, with some kind of civic role, young people can then start to slowly increase their bargaining power on their own terms.

Finally, it should be warned that in pure demographic terms, minors are relatively insignificant and have been given little natural motive to seek "liberation" thusfar. Their lives are supported and their freedoms are not far away in any event. However unjust, the fastest route to youth emancipation is time itself; just wait 4 or so years, and you are "free".

The system knows this.

It conspires against minors in more subtle ways than their supposed "liberators" might imagine.
JohnHolt


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