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Re: History belies many of your claims...

Posted by Manstuprator on 2024-April-13 01:07:47, Saturday
In reply to Re: Talk Back! Guide to media action [link] posted by andrew_bl on 2024-April-13 00:35:14, Saturday

There is no realistic similarity between acceptance of the homosexuality community and our community.

Are you sure? Have you studied the history of "homosexuality" enough to know?

The gigantic difference is that society and the community firmly believe that we want to hurt their children. This did not mainly apply to the gay community as it by and large involved consenting adults.

Are you sure? Have you studied the history of "homosexuality" and "pedophilia" enough to know?

This belief by society is impossible to shake. The overwhelming majority of parents would protect their children with their lives and no amount of activism or publicity or promotion of our cause will alter this erroneous belief.

Are you sure? Have you studied the history of "homosexuality," "pedophilia," and myths in general enough to know?

I am generally a positive person and I love being a BL but I like to think I am a realist too. The odds against us are stacked so devastatingly that promoting our cause is like the classic holding back the ocean.

Are you sure? Have you studied the history of "changing minds" enough to know?

Who can defeat the notions held by 98% of parents, society, the legal system, the judicial system, the parliamentary system, the horrible child protection racket, the education system and the press and social media?

Some of us have already changed some minds. Have you studied the history of "homosexuality," "pedophilia," and the law enough to know?

We can't in the foreseeable future. The tried and true "one boy at a time" remains our greatest way to move forward. This has had successes over centuries and brings with it our greatest chance of happiness and our greatest chance to be a hugely positive influence in the lives of those we love.

Yes, one mind at a time. Whether it's a child's mind, or an adult's mind, it's always one mind at a time. But we can leverage our influence by reaching out to groups of minds, and influence some of them, one mind at a time, no?



---BEGIN POST BY ERIC:---
Baselessness of Defeatism
Posted by Eric Tazelaar on 2013-April-1 03:30:57, Monday
Glenn Greenwald: "The shockingly rapid and radical collapse of the anti-gay framework demonstrates the baselessness of defeatism".

Well worth reading and reflecting upon:

"It really is a bit shocking how quickly gay marriage transformed from being a fringe, politically toxic position just a few years ago to a virtual piety that must be affirmed in decent company. Whenever I write or speak about any of the issues on which I focus, I always emphasize that a posture of defeatism - which is a form of learned impotence: a belief that meaningful change is impossible - is misguided. This demonstrates why that is true: even the most ossified biases and entrenched institutional injustices can be subverted - if the necessary passion and will are summoned and the right strategies found."

"Defeatism is more often than not a psychological instrument designed to relieve one of the responsibility to act (if change is impossible, then I have no reason and no obligation to work or take risks for it). That is bolstered by the effort of all ruling interests to instill a sense of powerlessness and hopelessness in those they suppress; systemic power abuses are, above all else, designed to persuade people of the futility of opposition, to adopt a defeatist mindset. But it is a mindset that finds little to no support in political history. The rapid and relentless dismantling of the anti-gay legal and societal framework in the US is yet more proof for that proposition."

see the whole piece here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/26/gay-marriage-supreme-court-defeatism

---END POST BY ERIC---


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