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Re: Born this way

Posted by Pharmakon on 2024-March-31 03:35:57, Sunday
In reply to Re: Born this way posted by monkeyLostInHead on 2024-March-30 16:09:58, Saturday

I don't think a transgirl is asking you to believe anything. I think she is asking you to behave towards her in the same way you behave towards other females. One of the ways you probably behave towards other females is using female pronouns in speaking about them. So your willingness or unwillingness to do that for her is likely going to be one of the most obvious indications of whether you are behaving toward her as you do toward other females or not.

Disbelieving that she is female is not marginalizing her. Making a point of expressing that disbelief, for example by using male pronouns to refer to her, is marginalizing her.

It is a political issue -- an issue of how we relate to one another socially -- and it is not an issue of truth or falsity of a factual claim. Your insistence to the contrary is fairly described as camouflaging. That insistence, not my pointing it out or Natalie Wynn's analysis, is what is dishonest here.

I cite Natalie Wynn because she explains these concepts correctly and in detail. Your refusal to engage with her arguments, and your description of her as a "dishonest interlocutor," appear to me to be based only on the fact she is a transwoman.

Beginning at the 26:36 mark in the video I linked in the post below, Wynn discusses how "facts" can be used to tell transphobic stories.

You find her dishonest. I find her enlightening, and even quite amusing. But of course we have been down this road before.

hugzu ;-p


Pharmakon
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