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The Julius Caesar thing does suggest you regard the desire of trans people to be treated as members of the gender they identify with as based in delusion. No. I am pointing out that if you allow trans on this basis, you have to allow everything else on the same basis( or else explain why trans is different) What is the difference between "I am not a woman, but want to be treated like one" and "I am not an emperor, but want to be treated like one" Trans, however, is an objective reality.There have always and everywhere been people who do not identify with the gender assigned them at birth. There have also always been people who identified as historical figures. We have no reason to treat you as emperor (though we do sometimes humor even the most outright delusions to keep the social peace). On the contrary, trans people are a distinct community whose suffering and marginalization cries out for remedy People who claimed to be emperors, but weren't, also usually suffered, shortly before they were put to death. Or I suppose later on, put into mental asylums, which is pretty marginalizing and causes suffering. outright delusions Why is claiming to be an emperor a delusion, but claiming to be a girl isn't? We have good reason to treat transgirls as girls, So you say. You haven't given any so far though. Its funny, you have been disallowing me making this about facts, and claiming that me doing so is bigotry. And yet here you are reeling out all sorts of facts about trans people, their history, and their suffering. so which is it? Either facts are allowed, and we can put forth our positions without accusations of bigotry, or they aren't, in which case I can also dismiss all your facts as bigotry. |