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"these arguments are never generalised to all men and are not used to claim that all sexual relations between men and women are illegitimate." The protectionism of adult women is very much a political football in the culture. I'm not sure what you get out of pushing the idea that there's something exceptional about child protectionism except to paint the antis as more inconsistent in their sex-negativity than they actually are. "you're confusing equality with similarity." Nope. Every once in a while we've had stories posted on BC of adult men who have had some disorder or other that prevents them from going through puberty which generated plenty of interest. Not to mention that some of us are perfectly capable of being a attracted to boyish looking adults. Pedophilia is a sexual attraction (as well as a romantic attraction) towards children's bodies, not some platonic attraction to childish mental states. Whether the object of our attraction acts boyishly or adult, we would romanticize it either way. "If you interpret need in a very narrow sense, then they don't need love or tenderness or anything but basic calories and vitamin" Except that's not what I said. I included friends and family. Companionship is a nearly universal human need. There's no reason it can't come from a pederast, but there's no reason it needs to either. That's just more fallacious exceptionalism. "I think you are definitely wrong about this." Wow, that was persuasive. But typically if a boy isn't having sex before he's 18, he's probably not going to be having sex immediately after either. Likewise with sexually active boys. If they're having sex at 18, they were probably already doing something before they were 18. The age of consent is arbitrary, not just in law but in fact. "Our persecution would suggest that it is not the case that "everyone knows" that aoc laws are completely arbitrary." Yes, they do. Corner a normie on the issue and they'll defend its arbitrariness by insisting that the line needs to be drawn "somewhere." Age-gap relationships above 18 are not immune to such scorn. "intellectual argument" i.e. making claims that you'd prefer not be checked against reality. Irritating indeed. ![]() |