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NOTE: Please forgive my use of caps to show my responses to your statements. I don't have a working computer as I did before which allowed me to easily format the text; your statements in quotes, indented, and my responses not indented. Thanks! ----- LOOK UP FRAMING IN WIKIPEDIA. FRAMING MEANS PRESENTING SOMETHING IN A WAY THAT DELIBERATELY BIASES IT. THE FEMINISTS HAVE TAKEN CONTROL OF THE DEFINITIONS, AND SO NOW THEY CONTROL THE DISCOURSE. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY MAKE THE KOOL-AID OTHERS ARE ENCOURAGED--EVEN FORCED!--TO DRINK. ------ I wouldn't be violent with boys, but a lot of pain isn't physical. PAIN IS BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO OBJECTIVELY MEASURE. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING NEBULOUS, WHICH MAKES ARGUING IMPOSSIBLE. They could regret it later in life, THEY COULD, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND THEY MAY NOT. "COULD" IS A WEASEL WORD. wasting their first time on an adult. HOW ABOUT WASTING THEIR FIRST TIME ON THEIR RIGHT HAND? OR ON THEIR PILLOW? THAT'S HOW FIRST-TIME SEX IS USUALLY EXPERIENCED. Or they might say yes because they want attention, not because they want sex. THEY MIGHT, OR THEY MIGHT NOT. AND JUST WHAT IS "WANTING SEX"? WHAT EXACTLY *IS* "SEX"? IT ALL DEPENDS ON DEFINITIONS AND WHOEVER CONTROLS THE DEFINITIONS CONTROLS THE CONVERSATION. THAT'S WHAT "FRAMING" IS ALL ABOUT. AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY WANT BOTH ATTENTION *AND* SEX. I like very young boys. YOU GIVE NO INDICATION OF WHAT AGES "VERY YOUNG BOYS" REFERS TO. SO THOSE WORDS ARE MISLEADING. I don't think they could understand the full meaning of sexual acts. HAVE YOU DONE ANY RESEARCH ON BOYS' UNDERSTANDING OF "SEX"? ALSO, SINCE NO-ONE CAN FULLY UNDERSTAND *ANYTHING* THEN "THE FULL MEANING OF SEXUAL ACTS" MAKES LITTLE SENSE. WE ALL GO THROUGH LIFE INVOLVING OURSELVES IN ACTIVITIES WE DO NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND. WHY SHOULD ONLY BOYS BE EXPECTED TO BE DIFFERENT, AND ONLY WHEN IT COMES TO "SEX"?? And when they get older and start understanding the significance, WE STLL HAVEN'T DEFINED "SEX" OR EXPLAINED WHAT HAVING IT SIGNIFIES. they might feel used. THEY MIGHT FEEL ANY NUMBER OF THINGS, FROM NEGATIVE, TO NEUTRAL, TO POSITIVE. THEY MIGHT *NOT* FEEL USED. THEY MAY GREATLY APPRECIATE THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH YOU. NOBODY CAN ACCURATELY FORETELL THE FUTURE. You're also taking away their chance of exploring things at their own pace, NO OBJECTIVE "PACE" HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO EXIST BY RESEARCHERS. EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN PACE, WHICH CAN SLOW DOWN OR SPEED UP. since you, as an adult, will already know how things work. SO HOW ARE BOYS SUPPOSED TO LEARN HOW THINGS WORK, IF NOT BY GAINING MORE EXPERIENCE? AND WHAT IS THIS NEBULOUS "THINGS WORK" YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? EXACTLY HOW DO "THINGS WORK" ANYWAY? And what if triggering their sexual side to early makes them hypersexual? ALL HUMANS ARE SEXUAL EVEN BEFORE BIRTH. THAT "SEXUAL SIDE" HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE, AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN ACTIVE. YOU CAN'T "TRIGGER" SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY IN OPERATION. Beside the harm caused by the act itself, WHAT ABOUT THIS UNSPECIFIED "SEX" ACT? YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT THAT "ACT" IS HARMFUL. SCIENCE DOESN'T CONFIRM WHAT YOU CLAIM. there is the harm caused by society. BY SOCIETY--SOCIOGENIC HARM. NOT HARM CAUSED BY YOU OR BY ANY SEXUAL ACT, BUT THE REVENGE SOCIETY TAKES ON THOSE WHO VIOLATE SOCIETY'S ARBITRARY MORAL CODES. SOCIETY BULLIES BOYS! ARE YOU IN FAVOUR OF THAT? IF NOT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT? I don't think it's responible to burden a kid or teenager with the burden of having to keep that secret KIDS KEEP LOT'S OF SECRETS FROM ADULTS, WITHOUT IT CAUSING THE KIDS ANY HARMS. HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN YOUR OWN CHILDHOOD? and risking them to have to go through the process of an investigation. YOU MEAN THE RISK OF BEING BULLIED AND SHAMED BY LEO? THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD BE FIGHTING AGAINST! The fact that people label it as harmfull, might also make them perceive it as something bad when they get older. IT "MIGHT". THEN AGAIN, IT MIGHT *NOT*. MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE FIGHTING AGAINST THOSE LABELS. ALSO, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN ANTISEXUALS MAY DECIDE TO "RE-CONCEPTUALIZE" A CERTAIN EXPERIENCE AS NEGATIVE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE CORRECT! I'm not touching boys, because that's the only way to be sure I'll never accidentaly hurt them. YOUR *NOT* TOUCHING BOYS COULD BE CAUSING THEM GREAT HARM, AND BE HURTING THEM. REJECTION CAN BE A TERRIBLE BURDEN TO BEAR. The fear of harming them was an irrational fear, caused by reading things that imply that pedophiles have poor self-control. YOU MAY SAY YOUR FEARS ARE IRRATIONAL, BUT YOU STILL SEEM TO BELIEVE THEM. I no longer have that fear. GREAT! I'M JUST SORRY YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PLEASURE BOYS, SEXUALLY OR OTHERWISE. IT'S A CRAZY WORLD, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE LIVING IN THE WRONG PLACE! AGAIN, SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS. IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME MORE THAN THE TWO HOURS THAT IT HAS TAKEN TO REPLY IF I'D HAD TO ANSWER WITHOUT USING THEM. MY BAD... M. |