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I would appreciate if you would avoid moralism. I honestly don’t know what you’re referring to, making it hard to avoid (or double down on). The translation at GLTTA runs: “The sixteenth year is that of the gods, and as for the seventeenth it is not for me,” So the age of fifteen is repeated and “seventeeth” refers to a 16yo. Whether you believe me or not, I don’t know a syllable of ancient Greek and cant get in the weeds with you here. It’s not very important, anyway. Why would I argue against worshipping boys as gods? But you have to put the poetic flights of fancy beside what we know about the practice of pederasty. Adolescent boys showing the appearance of adult male characteristics were at the end of their sexual availability. AS A BASIC PRINCIPLE. I had actually meant to bring up the differing age of puberty, which supports my case. If puberty starts later, the age of boys available for pederasty is older. There is a very real and meaningful distinction between the predominant existence of pederasty (as I define it) and the fringe young-mannism you want to include in a more general homosexual category. |