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'Special Love' vs 'Situational Sadist'.

Posted by JohnHolt on 2025-July-9 11:46:07, Wednesday
In reply to MAPism as a depression orientation posted by Errant on 2025-July-9 05:59:24, Wednesday

What you identify ties into a broader debate around acceptability, and essentializing claims of what it means to be attracted to minors.

But first, you should be careful not to adopt the language and assumptions of hostile forces. Your critique was replete with this kind of invective, e.g. "wanting to fuck boys".

Clearly, there was some talk about practicing sadists being part of the wider body of "situational" offenders, who may only be interested in younger people because of their proximity, convenience, lack of social standing, etc. So it isn't so much that practicing sadists are representative of situational offending, but the fact that unrestrained and violent sadists make up a considerable proportion of the most talked about adult-minor sex crimes, which happen to be situational offences.

What you should be asking yourself about "pushed" MAPs, is the same thing you should be asking yourself about any particular group representing 5, 10, 20% of the fighting age male population. Does it make sense to assume no such individual is capable of lashing out and committing unforgivable acts, if the group they are a part of is routinely demonized and denied realistic outlet to their feelings and fantasies? This is quite different from automatically associating the violence of mass shooters with the aggrieved groups they represent.

As to your views on not stigmatising those with any kind of situational interest in minors, I agree that a lot could be done on this in order to furcate it from the image of the violent rapist, without unnecessarily romanticising attraction to minors as a "special" or "pure" love.

But what you might not be aware of, is that this debate already exists among groups of MAPs and Zoophiles, with respect to sadism itself. Anti-contact sadists and biastophiles have clung on to the most stigmatized terminology and sought to challenge essentializing claims about the purity and selflessness of mentoring authority relations, as examples of pro-c abuse and manipulation. An inclusion and inclusivity war is being waged, largely between those with fiction-bound sexual identities, and those who aspire to live out their desires.
JohnHolt

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