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Re: everything is about Eros

Posted by diogenes on 2025-June-11 08:25:55, Wednesday
In reply to everything is about Eros posted by kit on 2025-June-11 05:28:30, Wednesday

I agree with the second line, since pederasty has a function to play in the emotional development of boys that can be understood in sound Darwinian terms; but when you then set sail on the high seas of the Mare LaudateAgno in your third line, I fear being shipwrecked in squalls of metaphysical woolliness.

Overwrought nautical metaphors aside, you refer to "the ultimate object of all human desire" (my emphasis) Ah, the seductions of Platonism. I suppose that what I clumsily misinterpret as a desire for bony-arsed youths is actually a desire for - for what? Union with the Godhead? The Form of the Good which is to the invisible world what the Sun is to the visible?

Plato was a very fine writer - that's part of the problem. If you're going to be seduced then at least be seduced by someone like Nietzsche, a seducer away from seduction:
But we hermits and marmots long ago became convinced that this worthy verbal pomp too belongs among the ancient false finery, lumber and gold-dust of unconscious human vanity, and that under such flattering colours and varnish too the terrible basic text homo natura must again be discerned. For to translate man back into nature; to master the many vain and fanciful interpretations and secondary meanings which have been hitherto scribbled and daubed over that eternal basic text homo natura; to confront man henceforth with man in the way in which, hardened by the discipline of science, man today confronts the rest of nature, with dauntless Oedipus eyes and stopped-up Odysseus ears, deaf to the siren songs of old metaphysical bird-catchers who have all too long been piping to him ‘you are more! you are higher! you are of a different origin!’ - that may be a strange and extravagant task but it is a task - who would deny that? Why did we choose it, this extravagant task? Or, to ask the question differently: ‘why knowledge at all?’ And we, thus pressed, we who have asked ourselves the same question a hundred times, we have found and can find no better answer... (Beyond Good and Evil, 230)
(Than what? That we simply have a disposition to this task? (Hume's defence) That philosophy, by erasing the painted surface and flattering lies that have been daubed over the text of man will glimpse a new ideal of affirmation of existence and set in motion a new politics on behalf of the natural order of things? Nietzsche characteristically leaves us to guess the answer for ourselves.)

diogenes

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