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kit has pretty much said it all...

Posted by Sick Rose on 2024-April-12 21:41:08, Friday
In reply to Re: 'The Only Problem'... posted by diogenes on 2024-April-11 11:37:25, Thursday

and there's not much more I can add.

But for what it's worth...

sure, we are what we are as human beings. We are flesh and blood creatures and sometimes temptation is beyond our power to resist. So even if one-on-one sexual relationships are actively discouraged (in boys schools or wherever) and fraught with peril -- moral and otherwise -- they are going to happen from time to time.

If I were the principal/headmaster of a boy's school, here's how I would deal with it.

-- I'd try to ascertain whether the sex was initiated by the boy or the man. If the latter, I'd give the guy a stern talking-to and tell him his job was at risk, but nothing would be said about it as long he mended his ways.

-- Whoever initiated the relationship, I would have both them of them into my office and have them explain to me why there might be problems. (I would want to find out whether they can think with their heads as well as their cocks.) I'd then tell them, "look, if the two of you want to get it on after (the boy) graduates, that's your business. But as long as (the boy) is enrolled in the school, cool it." I'd look into transferring the boy into another class if it could be done without attracting attention. (This, incidentally, is how I'd deal with a similar situation if I were a manager in a business or bureaucracy, irrespective of the sex or ages of the people involved. I'd try to transfer one of the two to another department or ask one of them to find another job. )

I've been told there is some research being done (am not sure who is doing it or how advanced it is) on the situation that prevailed in elite American boys prep schools two generations ago. As I understand it, there existed a discreet policy deliberately to recruit continent BLs (they made the best teachers; there is a hint of what I'm talking about in a famous scene in Catcher in the Rye involving Holden and one of his former teachers-- as any great writer does, Salinger knew intimately the world he was describing.) The inevitable indiscretions were dealt with, so I gather, in the way I outlined above.

Of course that world is gone, destroyed by co-education and the peculiar type of sex hysteria that has spread over the Land of the Free, an hysteria that manages to combine the worst aspects of the libertine and the Puritan without the redeeming features of either. It is one reason (perhaps the principal reason) why the American ruling class is now so manifestly corrupt and dysfunctional.

Whatever; I read the link that Edmund provided to that fascinating interview with Hajo Ortil. (Again, I am so struck with what an incredible resource Edmund has provided with the Greek Love website).

There is a difference between a teacher getting it on with a student and the situation Ortil describes. The teacher is in a position of authority over his charges; membership in the "Pirates" that Oril supervised was entirely voluntary. It was also clear that Ortil let the boys come to him.

The contrast between Ortil and Johnny Kitawaga, the most recent figure we know of who had sex with hundreds of boys, is even more stark. Kitagawa could make or break the careers of the boys in his agency and it is pretty clear -- even making allowances for the inability of the media to report these incidents with even the slightest shred of objectivity, sympathy, or understanding -- that Kitagawa sometimes forced himself on boys who put up with his attentions because they felt they had no choice.

Even so many of his former charges could be seen weeping openly at his funeral -- something the media no longer tell you as if the whole story is just ABUSE.

We live in bad times.

SR
Sick Rose

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