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Re: ideals and realities

Posted by diogenes on 2024-April-12 08:53:38, Friday
In reply to ideals and realities posted by kit on 2024-April-12 06:08:47, Friday

Well, you write with typical eloquence and persuasiveness, and I very much take your point that our society has no area between the ideal and damnation.

However, my only problem is when you get the man and boy in the headmaster's study, and the headmaster gives them a bollocking and orders them to discontinue their relationship, and the boy says, But what business is it of anyone but ourselves? And then the head presumably says, well, you see, it creates an impression of favouritism. And the boy explains that the other boys in his class know about the relationship and are okay with it, and that neither they nor their teacher are actually stupid, and they know that the teacher will do everything to avoid the least show of favouritism, and that, in any case, Mr Snodgrass from 5D is now marking all the boy's work so everyone knows that if his grades improve it's got nothing to do with being teacher's pet. And then the head says, well, yes, you see, it's a matter of policy, so you must stop seeing each other, and if you don't then either you'll be expelled or the teacher will be sacked.

Certainly this is a lot better and a lot more civilised than calling the police. But still, why make a boy utterly miserable? I really can't see the point. Why don't we just say that all sex that is mutually consensual or mutually enjoyable, between all individuals of any gender and any age is to be permitted?

As Edmund has pointed out, even if there is some rivalry, a little competition might not be undesirable from a pedagogic point of view. And kids do sometimes fall in love with their teachers. It might be the most important relationship of their lives, and those who seek to suppress it take upon themselves a fearful responsibility.

You and Sick Rose are asking an awful lot of boysexual teachers, in terms of "sublimating" their desires and never crossing the line of actually properly loving a boy, even if that's what the boy himself clearly wants. If the problem is one of favouritism, then I should have thought that the logical solution would be to urge the teacher to have regular sex with all the boys in his charge.

You know, before coming to BoyChat I never ever thought of myself as a radical. Between one side saying that youth rights consist in the inalienable right of boys to change sex but not to have sex, and the other side championing the inalienable right of pederasts to love boys provided they keep their willies safely in their underwear, is it any wonder that the cheeky youngsters are ignoring both sides and instead turning, Gadarene-like, to the obvious, though losing, strategy of MAP identitarianism? I only wish men like Tony Duvert and Ivan Noel were still around - men with cojones. But the age of giants is past, so it will take another 50 years before things can even begin to turn around, and by then I shall be food for the worms and the flies.

diogenes

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