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Posted by Pharmakon on 2024-March-7 03:29:18, ThursdayIn reply to Will 'Lial, Pharmakon, Errant BL, or JohnHolt' posted by Sick Rose on 2024-March-6 22:53:28, Wednesday
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But this is no quibble; while you are right that in other comments Zembla displays a more nuanced grasp of how the leadership of movements for liberation come to be enlisted in serving the interests of the oppressor, this notion of the female principle as inherently malign regularly surfaces. It's the difference between a cogent attempt to engage with the gender issues posed by the industrial transformation of society and a reductionist exercise in essentialist scapegoating. You recently wrote: It's not that the ruling elite doesn't consist mostly of men – it does – but the shock troops that carry out the implied instructions of the elite are mostly women. (I might suggest "often" rather than "mostly," if only to make room for the fact that the movements built around people of color and gay men have been no more immune than feminism from gentrification, assimilation, and exploitation in the service of the almighty marketplace and its ownership class -- see my recent post linked below.) Sb is hardly off the mark in distilling, in this thread, the essence of Zembla's "tirade" as an update of a tradition, like so many others, more honored in the breach than the observance: Can you imagine what a thrill it must have been, back in the day, to meet secretly to maintain a story-telling tradition which . . . wait for it . . . PUT ALL THE BLAME ON WOMEN? I can do no better than quote a passage from a classic analysis of the French Revolution that reminds us why positive social change so often fails to come about: Whilst ambition, jealousy, cupidity, and the blind love of innovation, kept up a deplorable struggle among a people, of whom some combatted to reestablish the ancient monarchy — others to place upon the French throne a new dynasty — others, again, to transfer power from one caste of society to another; but all for the purpose of appropriating exclusively to themselves the national authority, and thereby those enjoyments of which authority is the source: amid all these parties there was slowly formed a certain class of citizens who, actuated by very different principles, desired also a great political change, but one altogether opposed to the passions of the former persons, who were only so many interested fomenters of civil discords. In fact, there was a variety of political sects that aspired, each to give to France a form of administration favourable to its own selfish views, but they were very few who sought a real radical reform of society in favour of the mass of the people. hugzu ;-p
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