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Re: Adultism

Posted by monkeyLostInHead on 2023-December-1 13:54:48, Friday
In reply to Adultism posted by Orange Turtle on 2023-November-30 21:41:05, Thursday

Adultism is discrimination against the young.

Ok, but what do you mean by "discrimination against the young"?

Almost all legal age limits are adultist. Working age, driving age, age of consent to anything, drinking age, compulsory education, you name it, it's adultist.

How are the things you mentioned discrimination?

There are a few exceptions though. For example, when it comes to criminal justice, minors are afforded some protections adults aren't, like freedom from the death penalty, not having ridiculously long sentences, the police not being allowed to lie to them and privacy.

Why does this get to be an exception? You appear to think that pretty much anything else is discrimination. You are going to have to explain why this gets an exception and isnt adultism, but everything else is.

My justification for forced life-saving treatment is that the right to live actually trumps the right to refuse medical treatment

What?

it's actually better respecting a person's autonomy to force them to have the treatment

This is contradictory. You cant respect someones autonomy by forcing them to do something.


In addition to laws, social attitudes can be adultist. This includes your example of setting a bedtime of 9pm for your child. Not only is it adultist, but it disregards the science of sleep. A person knows their circadian rhythm. Their parents don't. Interference with sleep patterns causes problems. If someone sets a bedtime of 9pm for their child, it was likely triggered by their child going to bed much later, such as after 12am. As such, it's likely that they will sleep at their usual time despite the intervention. And then if the parent makes them get up earlier, the result is sleep deprivation.

This is a terrible argument. After a short time of going to bed at 9pm, their circadian rhythm will reset and they will have no problem going to bed at 9.

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