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Re: Feminism's economic advantages are overstated

Posted by Pharmakon on 2017-July-12 21:35:59, Wednesday
In reply to Feminism's economic advantages are overstated posted by Lysander on 2017-July-12 18:57:15, Wednesday

You are maybe confusing cause and effect here, women went to work because capitalism stopped paying men enough to support a family without a second income and feminism was a result of that, not the other way around.

And a return to child labor -- well yes there is a kids lib argument to made there, but we are only a few generations in the West away from sweatshops filled with children (which still exist many places) let's don't idealize that ugly history.

The kids of the ruling classes have always been schooled. Making that option available to working class kids is a good thing. Yes, they should be free to work if they choose, but we have found before that under capitalism making that possible slides quickly into making it an economic necessity for many kids and how much freedom are you giving boys then?

Look for a way forward, Lysander, please. There is no way back.

hugzu ;-p

Pharmakon

Follow ups:

Sometimes it's best to go backward - Lysander 2017-July-12 21:56:04, Wednesday (15)
- Here's the thing about 'reforms' - Lysander 2017-July-12 22:22:24, Wednesday (12)
  - Re: Here's the thing about 'reforms' - Pharmakon 2017-July-13 06:55:48, Thursday (11)
    - Capitalism is still Holy in the USA - Will Robinson 2017-July-13 17:23:50, Thursday (3)
      - Thx for this Will - Pharmakon 2017-July-13 22:46:12, Thursday (2)
        
        And thanks for reading and excerpting! - Will Robinson 2017-July-14 15:05:03, Friday (1)
        
        Very comples issue - Pharmakon 2017-July-14 17:49:18, Friday (0)
    - Google the name of any country and'fertility rate' - Lysander 2017-July-13 16:27:50, Thursday (6)
      - Still lost on why fertility rate is a concern - Pharmakon 2017-July-13 21:34:13, Thursday (4)
        
        I'm suggesting that the fertility rate will drop - Lysander 2017-July-13 21:55:02, Thursday (3)
        
        plumbing the depths.... - middy 2017-July-13 22:40:36, Thursday (0)
        
        ok thx Lysander but.... - Pharmakon 2017-July-13 22:32:56, Thursday (1)
        
        (Shrugs) - Lysander 2017-July-13 23:08:15, Thursday (0)
      - Not to mention... - God's Avenging Angel 2017-July-13 16:45:00, Thursday (0)
- I even hear older women sometimes talking about - Lysander 2017-July-12 21:57:18, Wednesday (1)
  - Vanilla cokes! - Pharmakon 2017-July-12 22:17:26, Wednesday (0)

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