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Well, thanks for making the effort! (What a lovely surprise!) Basically, i think he's saying something similar to the old addage about how taking up the masters' tools tends to turn you into only another rendition of the master. Or how if one takes up violent means of coercion (i.e. guns), they often have to be WORSE THAN the oppressor in order to overwhelm them. And in this action, the victims tend to become as violent as the oppressor, tending only to reproduce the existing social order instead of doing what people initially sought to do, i.e. end war. Thus, such persons tend to INTERNALIZE THE VALUES of the victimizer, and that in itself is what Vaneigem is getting at, i think. ![]() |