Many are currently discussing what they think that St Augustine said and thought, (or, rather, what he wrote about what he thought and said). You know, people can just READ what he wrote, and then the discussions would be more valid and to the point, don't you think? This linked-to translation is said to be more accessible than earlier translations as it uses modern English, and Ruden is also said to be an expert on ancient languages, as well as on that period. Of course, there's the Wikipedia article (if you've gotten this far in the post I assume that you can find the article...) Here's the book: Confessions by St Augustine Sarah Ruden (translator) M. I'm amazed how often people discuss things that they have little or no real understanding of, and no interest in improving their understanding of, either! Doesn't that surprise you, too? ... Typical BoyChat poster: "I may know almost nothing about the subject, but I have the RIGHT to express my opinion! So, the following is what I think, and I demand you read it, and try to puzzle out what I mean due to the fact that I'm not well-educated enough to use the English language correctly. And no, I won't bother to proofread my post carefully, either! I have the RIGHT to make foolish typing errors, and to say whatever I think, even if my thinking is all muddled up! This is a free country! This is my right, even if my opinion is NOT informed on the topic in any way! And stop trying to confuse me with the facts--I've already made up my mind on the topic! And you are just so stupid, anyway!"...Download several formats here: https://annas-archive.org/search?q=Confessions+%28Modern+Library%29+Augustine++Sarah+Ruden |