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Only in your withered autistic mind is it a given that people don't have any idea of what is on other people's minds Not an argument, adhominem. The family knew Possibly, but you dont. I doubt the family know for sure. it depends how you define gratifying themselves sexually. It would be possible to get pleasure, sexual and otherwise, from all the actions you list, and for it to look perfectly normal. And by this argument, you should be on all the mom forums calling the breast feeding moms perverts and molesters, since its a well known phenomenon that breast feeding can be sexually pleasurable, and theres no doubt that moms will look forward to it, and to choose breast feeding over bottle feeding at least partly for this reason. You love to criticize where others suggest drawing lines, Nope. Not true. I criticize the arguments given in support of where the line is drawn. Im not going to accept a line just because you say so. |