Re: Really?

Not only did pederasty exist within a supportive social framework, it had nothing whatever to do with men "looking to dominate a submissive younger partner", which is what you earlier alleged. The fact that Greek society was radically different to our own does not alter this. We have exploitation in our own time. No Greek slaveholder wielded the vast power that the Shell company currently wields over hundreds of millions of Nigerians. What made Greek civilisation different to ours was not the fact that it rested on exploitation, but rather its achievement in the realm of thought and culture, and its providing what in many ways was a genuinely graceful mode of living for a privileged minority. To identify as gay is to ignore the fact that the gays have thrown us out, have scapegoated us. You are not gay in the modern sense of that term. However much you crave the respectability of the gay label, assuming that label will not save you from persecution (if only things were that simple!). The only thing that might make the gays think twice about scapegoating us is if society went back to scapegoating them - and even then they'd probably only respond by doubling down on their persecution of us.