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'Humanization' is anathema to some.

Posted by JohnHolt on 2024-June-14 08:26:09, Friday
In reply to Gentrification posted by Errant on 2024-June-14 07:52:30, Friday

I basically agree with what you are saying, but refer to a certain modern mindset that would consider "humanization" to be far too assimilationist. What could be said is that the idea of "humanization" is inherently dehumanizing, as it excludes the deviant, deranged and the truly degenerate from its concept of humanity.

The above is the logical conclusion of going uberwoke with 100% conviction, and actually describes a present line of thought (maybe 10% of MAP activism, 25-30% of mentally ill activism) and is what I am trying to characterize as railing against the norm. Railing against the norm, while engaging with society in no positive way.

As for the real world, if something as grotesque as TERFs naturally spring forth from that "space we created", it shows one thing. It shows that the successful liberation movements were not "winning" by just idly railing against the norm, norms which remain, to some extent to this day, in the form of constructs like "race". They were instead actively renegotiating how their experiences should be read by society, within those norms.

Now, as to the gentrification and luxuriant modern strains of identity politics that arised from the Queer fork to the LGBTQ+ movement, my reckoning is that MAPs (or any such defined group) need to do something on top of riding that wave. Something unique, since the taboo of power difference, childhood innocence and age-prejudice was never challenged. In some ways, those taboos that hold us back were reinforced to get gays "over the line".

This is not to say I personally oppose the alliance of politically-embedded activism for minorities (such as MAPs who are firstly Anarcho-Communists). They, and for context, I am referring to today's Anarcho-Communist Youth MAP activists, sometimes slip into the above oversights, and even engage with the oversimplified way of thinking I just described.

I feel they might be misguided in some way, but ultimately, some kind of systemic reform (anti capitalism, or for me, anti-corruption and to a lesser degree anti-capitalism) is required to immunize future societies against scapegoating their minorities.
JohnHolt

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