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Re: The lunacy of ChildLib, PIE and NAMBLA

Posted by diogenes on 2024-May-1 11:28:50, Wednesday
In reply to The lunacy of ChildLib, PIE and NAMBLA posted by Crucifixus on 2024-May-1 10:40:31, Wednesday

Thanks for the link. Quote:
And to state what will perhaps be obvious: no matter how high-minded the philosophical case for Child Liberation, we should be uneasy that there are people who will cheer such a case to the echo for non-philosophical reasons — specifically, those who will find distinctly appealing the idea that a liberated child will be capable of consenting to sex with adults. Nambla ... and the UK’s now-happily-defunct Paedophile Information Exchange ... were very keen on respecting the rights of children to express their sexuality freely.
It will be interesting to see if Lorna Finlayson tackles the issue of child sexuality and whether she affirms the right of kids to sexual self-expression. Unless this issue is addressed directly, it will always stand in the way of generalised child liberationism being accepted.

There's an interview with Lorna Finlayson here: https://oxfordpoliticalreview.com/2021/11/02/dr-lorna-finlayson/
But I wasn't very encouraged by the quote in this interview from her 2014 article:
The particular system of unequal power between men and women, to which porn contributes (or of which it forms a part), is one in which women’s agency and worth is denied in such a way that their protest or refusal (not just to sex or to sexual advance, but especially to these) is effectively defused or nullified in ways that are not always easy to detect, let alone to articulate or to combat, but that have to do with the social status and identity that are accorded to women and, relatedly, with the way in which their attempts at protest and refusal are interpreted.
If she is anti-porn then will she be pro-child sex?

It's funny that several of the commentators on the unHerd article mention Lord of the Flies. One writes "I guess she’s never read Lord of the Flies. In the absence of adults, children oppress one another. Witness: any school playground." But the point of LOTF is that this is the way humans generally behave, not just children, and this is made very explicit at the end of the novel. The children on the island mirror the adult world in microcosm.

diogenes

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