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Posted by LaudateAgno on 2020-July-23 04:49:12, Thursday
In reply to I was right! posted by Sick Rose on 2020-July-23 03:08:57, Thursday

Segregation is absolutely the right answer, and sadly the least politically imaginable in this world of high-tech secular capitalism. Where does it happen? In low-tech, non-secular, non-capitalist societies.

Pharmakon wrote,
Ever since wage labor put men into competition with women, men have done everything they could to tilt the playing field in their favor. This is the politics of the gender roles we have been teaching kids for the last 300 years. It isn't even necessary to examine the distorted masculinity we teach boys to see the problem here."
Indeed; as I've written somewhere here before, the situation is very much determined by the the industrial revolution, which is when the sexual revolution really began. But I don't think men have necessarily done everything they can to tilt the playing field; rather, the masculine qualities and values inherited by the increasingly technologized society became unmoored from the conditions that made use of them, so that male defense of what was once meaningful has lost its sense.

I was quite like Sick Rose growing up, though I don't think anyone thought I was gay, as my attraction to boys became truly manifest when I was a couple years older than the boys I was falling for, so my peers didn't see it, and though no jock I wasn't any sissy. What is curious is that it was my apartness from boys that drew me back to them, and this very "apartness" of the male is what forms the boy-gang in the first place. Boys socialize by being anti-social together.

I honestly do not believe there is any possibility of changing a structure so vast as high-tech global capitalism in a direction that boys need, that needs boys, or that needs us. The only possibilities are to hold onto bits and pieces of it as in a museum, or to leave it entirely, form others, and hope we don't get crushed in the process.

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