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Re: Genderfuck the future

Posted by monkeyLostInHead on 2020-July-22 06:18:20, Wednesday
In reply to Re: Genderfuck the future posted by Pharmakon on 2020-July-22 05:40:27, Wednesday

I reject that

Any thoughtful boy aspires, rationally, to femininity

your "rational" reason for them doing so is

because he rejects the limitations the hegemonic masculine role imposes.

Its not a valid argument. He doesnt have to reject the limitations the hegemonic masculine role imposes. Even if he does reject it, it doesnt then automatically mean he aspires to femininity.

just to be clear your argument is

P1) I reject the limitations the hegemonic masculine role imposes


C) I aspire, rationally, to femininity

Conclusion (C) does not logically follow from proposition (P1)

you commit yourself to the position that thoughtful boys can or should accept the limitations the hegemonic masculine role imposes.

No I dont, it would be possible to reject the limitations the hegemonic masculine role imposes without also aspiring rationally to femininity

Your position is that thoughtful boys MUST reject the limitations the hegemonic masculine role imposes. Thats not true either. They are free to accept or reject as they like.

Boys can be as fem as they fucking want

This is a separate argument from the above. Wants and desires are what they are, and are not necessarily logical or rational.

If we respect hegemonic gender roles, we deny male-male sexuality

Im not sure thats true, there was lots of homoerotic stuff going on even when men were "real" men and women were "real" women.

Nothing is more basic to this role than its homophobia

How do you know? Not even sure what this means? Also, throwing "homophobia" around gets you nowhere, and explains precisely nothing.

Kids are not going to face all this alone. Doctors, parents, and the state all seek to play a role. Parents and doctors are more likely to facilitate a child's agency than the state. This is a sexual issue, and we should never trust the state to intervene helpfully in matters of sex.

In every case I have seen, the parents have been raging lunatics who directly or indirectly have influenced their child. I dont know how we can determine that its the childs agency that is at play. Until we can determine that, I am very skeptical of all that is going on.

I suppose you might argue that that happens in "normal" families too, and that adults directly or indirectly influence their child to be gender normal. Which is likely true.

Its like you think that all of this, all of gender, and sex, and gendered behaviour , and differences, is just random , and on a whim. Has it occurred to you that there may be reasons why things are the way they are?

I get that you dont like that things are the way you are, but I also dont think you should get to tinker with, or even destroy, things just because you dont like them

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