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Posted by Ellen on 2017-March-24 21:47:36, Friday
In reply to Hyperbole wins arguments posted by 2 Fat 4 Boys on 2017-March-24 18:12:04, Friday

"And once they really understand why that man was so nice to them they feel repulsed and disgusted whether any sex was actually involved or not. That's why children grow up and "rat on" their adult sexual partners and it's why children grow up to hate adult friends who were clearly attracted to them. It wasn't a breakdown in the relationship it was a learning experience for the child. The child didn't and couldn't understand the relationship at the time."

Eh, no. Children in Western society often grow up to regret their sexual experiences with their former adult partners precisely because they buy into the dogma that adult-child sexual interaction is morally repugnant, which is in turn fueled by the belief that adult-child sex is inherently harmful for the victim, especially psychologically. It's a positive feedback loop, you see. Even adults who've admitted to willingly and enthusiastically engaging in and enjoying these intimate relationships as children can and do fall victim to this social conditioning, causing them to bear great shame and confusion. In other words, were it not for social and legal condemnation of such relationships, there may be a great deal less trauma produced from these couplings.

Moreover, you can look into other societies who're more sexually permissive or liberal and discover that they have lower incidents of trauma among adults who were sexually active in their youth. In their case, they simply haven't fallen prey to the "victim mentality", which tells them that they were abused by predators selfishly looking toward their own sexual gratification. Rather, they accept that they were quite often willing participants, and that this past event wont determine their present quality of life, as they should.

"And regardless of what you might think most people don't really understand their sexuality until about age 20 or so"


A sexual orientation or preference, being definitive, typically emerges during puberty or adolescence, well before the maturation of the brain at twenty-five. So no, you can trust minors when they say that they're straight or gay. It isn't a conspiracy, chief.


"They can only understand once their brain is fully mature. [. . .] This is a natural reaction [emphasis mine] and is not the fault of society."

But those citations doe.

A significant minority of adults in the West who'd engaged in these relationships as children do not feel that they've been abused, nor do they necessarily embrace the victimological narrative which society assigns to these sorts of relationships. If these relationships naturally repel people, does that mean these individuals are mentally deficient since they obviously don't share that conviction? What does it mean that these people refuse to let themselves by traumatized by something which is clearly socially inappropriate, were it not for their meaningful consent (or, in some cases, passive assent)?

"Lots of fun things are illegal but I don't see anyone crusading to legalize those things."

I hope you're being factitious. There are people in this country, (the U.S. of A.) and everywhere else, for that matter, who're lobbying for the decriminalization of everything from narcotics to prostitution to polygamy and more. Frankly, I'm baffled that anyone with two brain cells would type this statement out, when a cursory look on the internet could easily reveal this stuff. Jesus H. Christ, man.

"It's all about sex."

But it isn't, now is it? Yes, sex, or more acutely, sexual intimacy, is important to a healthy romantic relationship, but that isn't what really builds a solid foundation. What's really vital is that there's mutual love and respect between the pair. That we show children love, and care and compassion, and respect for their decisions — that's what's critical. Sex is secondary for many, myself included. I'd be happy that I could simply date who I wanted, and not get spit on or stalked by concerned parents, fuck the sex. Saying that it all boils down to sex is facile.


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