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Re: parents are the only hope of freedom

Posted by Hammer Kaiser on 2017-February-23 02:04:57, Thursday
In reply to Re: parents are the only hope of freedom posted by Edmund on 2017-February-22 23:13:42, Wednesday

The problem with absolute rejection of a role for the state is that it doesn't answer what happens if your will conflicts with your child's. Do you believe that, should you see fit, you should refuse ever to bestow independence on your children? If you live long enough, should you be able to forbid them when they are fifty from marrying someone you disapprove of, for example?

The answer is yes. As I said before, parental sovereignty is something that is in itself unconditional. There are no "time limits" on it. If hypothetically I lived to 200 and my offspring were 188 and younger and my will conflicted with them the matter would still be nothing at all to do with any government. It would strictly be a FAMILY MATTER. If hypothetically I decided it would be in the best interests of myself and/or my offspring never to bestow independence on them then that would STILL be a family matter NOT of any outsider's business. Never bestowing independence on my offspring of course would be something I'd very unlikely want to do, but even when I DO bestow independence on them doesn't mean to say they would be free of any serious consequences in the event they did something in defiance of me. (I can do things like cut them right out of my will, and I know they WOULDN'T like that.)

If so, how should you be able to enforce your will? In a country conforming to your ideals, would you be able to call on the law to enforce it?

Naturally, no. This is because as I have earlier said, such matters would be entirely a domestic matter and solely MY responsibility as the father. It would be solely my responsibility to take all measures I deem necessary to keep my offspring from going off the rails.



If not, as I would guess from the foregoing, how do you expect to enforce it? Are you absolutely confident you can invariably manage this through reason, persuasion, threats or force? Or do you admit the possibility of defeat, in which case should it be simply a contest of wills between parent and child, with no one else allowed to interfere?

I can only do my best, Ed, but yes, I can not guarantee that I sometimes might fail in achieving what I want. All I can really do is apply the above methods you mentioned. Fortunately my offspring and I get on like a house on fire and they agree fully with my worldview. In fact, they themselves are even MORE passionate about my ideas than even I am! So luckily there will very unlikely be anything much that will go wrong in future.

I shall be fascinated by any clarification of this.

I hope I managed to answer everything well enough. Cheers.
Hammer Kaiser

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