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Posted by Edmund on 2017-January-16 22:44:33, Monday
In reply to experiences of minor-attracted females posted by hikari on 2017-January-16 17:08:35, Monday

In terms of winning understanding and sympathy, female boy-lovers have one gigantic advantage over male boy-lovers besides the one you mention, so it is very noble of you to wish to make common cause with those whose cause is comparatively even more hopeless. Hence I think male boy-lovers should be rolling out the red carpet for you.

The advantage I mean probably only applies much where pubescent, rather than pre-pubescent, boys are concerned. It is considerable nevertheless and it is this. Almost everybody today thinks all sex between men and boys is wrong, while a huge swathe of the population knows deep-down that sex between women and pubescent boys is not wrong. Most of them dare not say so in public (just as few men dare acknowledge they are attracted to pubescent girls, though most of them know they are), but is quite clear, most obviously when a pretty young woman teacher is arrested over a boy and there is a huge surge in internet traffic caused by men expressing their envy of the boy.

Though it can only be theoretical, I think it's worth looking into the reasons for the difference. I would say it is simply because most men can well remember that, when they were pubescent, they and their friends desired sex with women. And most women realise that is the case. A simpler and purer morality often then trumps the cant of the witch-hunters: that if the boys obviously and badly wanted it, it couldn't be seriously wrong.

In contrast, I suspect most men have no memories of wanting sex with men when they were boys. There are many reasons for this, none of which rule out their having been able to enjoy and benefit from such sex if the right circumstances had arisen. I think the principal one is that pubescent boys do not usually desire the bodies of men as they do those of women. Rather, they tend to be excited by being desired by someone they admire and all that that entails. But this implies that first they must feel that they are desired by such a person, and few in our hostile culture have had that chance.

It is very hard for anyone to empathise truly with sexual feelings they have never experienced themselves.

The prohibition of sex between women and boys is really very recent. If enough women boy-lovers were to make their case strongly, perhaps there might be a tiny chance of making society see sense over their plight. And, given society's determination to avoid gender discrimination, that would open a back door for male boy-lovers that doesn't now exist.

While on the subject, I would like to ask anyone for details on how sex between women and boys became illegal? I only know anything here where England is concerned. It was still not illegal there as late as 1976, as is clear from this endnote to chapter four of Tom O'Carroll's Paedophilia: The Radical Case:
“Even then the law is at pains to assign a passive role to the female. At Caernarvon Crown Court in 1976 a woman aged thirty-five, who was alleged to have had intercourse with some boys aged twelve to fifteen, faced charges of indecent assault against them. The judge directed the jury to find her not guilty, saying that there is not and never has been an offence of a woman having sexual intercourse with a boy under sixteen. He told the jury that if they were 'to consider this particular case, the prosecution could not rely on the mere fact of intercourse with the boys as of itself constituting an indecent assault'. Reported in The Daily Telegraph, p.3, and the Daily Mail, p.3, 8 October, 1976. See also M. Rae et al., First Rights: A Guide to Legal Rights for Young People, NCCL, London, 1979, p.60, and Paedophilia: Some Questions and Answers, PIE, London, 1978, Appendix on the Law.”

It certainly did become illegal before the legislation of 2003, so presumably this came about through some re-interpretation of the law. I vividly remember reading newspaper articles about prosecutions in which they feminists who were then making trouble argued that women boy-lovers had to be prosecuted purely to avoid discrimination. In other words, there was no pretence yet that the boys involved were harmed.
Edmund
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